Post by jerb on Oct 20, 2017 14:36:25 GMT
Recently had a problem which took a while to understand - the solution may already be known & on this forum (but I can't find it despite using the search terms in the forum that are meaningful - to me !). So this is a FYI.
Situation : I wished to refresh the entire music collection on my X10. The sources are kept on my Win8.1 PC (thick-walled house, physical music servers rather than wireless), so they were copied to an external drive. Easiest way to clear the entire music database on the X10 is to reformat the HDD. Drastic, but quick (then need to check/refresh a few settings eg internet radio favourites). So plugged the external HDD into X10, and copy to DB, as per manual & other support threads from nova. Took quite a while, but completed OK.
Investigation : when playing from the dbase, as you know, there's a 'track counter' on the bottom right showing, like 123/4567 being "the current song" / "total songs". Now, from previous work on my PC, I knew my "total songs" was about 5500. But the X10 was showing only about 3800. Via Samba I was able to access the X10 directories from my PC and, with a couple of Directory explorer panes, do some comparisons. It soon became clear that X10 has a prime index based on song/file name. The main difference in numbers of songs/files was due to duplicate source song/file names eg '01 Track 01.wav' due to either poor CD creation or ripping problems on my PC. Plus, as some of my stuff is classical, duplicated source song/file names like 'Credo'.
Discovery : What the X10 does is load the first occurrence and ignore any duplicates.
Solution : Remove duplicates in the source. 'MusicBee' is a great & easy way to list music, find anomalies, & edit them. I have to say that I don't think I've got 5500-3800=1700 duplicates. But I'll slowly correct the sources & do another load into X10; see if there's another large difference & investigate that & advise the forum of any obvious cause (& solution).
Further investigation : Not many duplicates - about 100. So still a major discrepancy between the number reported by Windows Explorer (folder, properties) and by X10.
Starting at the top of the music folder structure and using Run, CMD, "tree /a /f > output.txt" and importing that into Excel, then sort & filter, showed the number of actual music files (eg .mp3 & .wav). And that's the number shown by X10 after the import noted in the first para above.
Doh. Then realised that I wasn't seeing any album images in the Explorer displayed folders. Stupid me - the count in Windows Explorer (folder, properties) includes hidden system files. Once I'd exposed those (jpg, ini etc) via Control Panel, Folder Options I could see how the count of files was so high. So it was Explorer that was winding me up !
Reload from PC into X10, after duplicates sorted. X10 number agrees with count of songs in edited Excel file as above. Result !
Solution : If in doubt as to how many songs you've got - use MusicBee; the number is shown (now I look properly) at bottom right of the screen. And that agrees with X10.
Situation : I wished to refresh the entire music collection on my X10. The sources are kept on my Win8.1 PC (thick-walled house, physical music servers rather than wireless), so they were copied to an external drive. Easiest way to clear the entire music database on the X10 is to reformat the HDD. Drastic, but quick (then need to check/refresh a few settings eg internet radio favourites). So plugged the external HDD into X10, and copy to DB, as per manual & other support threads from nova. Took quite a while, but completed OK.
Investigation : when playing from the dbase, as you know, there's a 'track counter' on the bottom right showing, like 123/4567 being "the current song" / "total songs". Now, from previous work on my PC, I knew my "total songs" was about 5500. But the X10 was showing only about 3800. Via Samba I was able to access the X10 directories from my PC and, with a couple of Directory explorer panes, do some comparisons. It soon became clear that X10 has a prime index based on song/file name. The main difference in numbers of songs/files was due to duplicate source song/file names eg '01 Track 01.wav' due to either poor CD creation or ripping problems on my PC. Plus, as some of my stuff is classical, duplicated source song/file names like 'Credo'.
Discovery : What the X10 does is load the first occurrence and ignore any duplicates.
Solution : Remove duplicates in the source. 'MusicBee' is a great & easy way to list music, find anomalies, & edit them. I have to say that I don't think I've got 5500-3800=1700 duplicates. But I'll slowly correct the sources & do another load into X10; see if there's another large difference & investigate that & advise the forum of any obvious cause (& solution).
Further investigation : Not many duplicates - about 100. So still a major discrepancy between the number reported by Windows Explorer (folder, properties) and by X10.
Starting at the top of the music folder structure and using Run, CMD, "tree /a /f > output.txt" and importing that into Excel, then sort & filter, showed the number of actual music files (eg .mp3 & .wav). And that's the number shown by X10 after the import noted in the first para above.
Doh. Then realised that I wasn't seeing any album images in the Explorer displayed folders. Stupid me - the count in Windows Explorer (folder, properties) includes hidden system files. Once I'd exposed those (jpg, ini etc) via Control Panel, Folder Options I could see how the count of files was so high. So it was Explorer that was winding me up !
Reload from PC into X10, after duplicates sorted. X10 number agrees with count of songs in edited Excel file as above. Result !
Solution : If in doubt as to how many songs you've got - use MusicBee; the number is shown (now I look properly) at bottom right of the screen. And that agrees with X10.